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Old 11-21-2008, 11:56 AM
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You wrote-: "i thought TT says lower the right shoulder starting down which then forces the left hip back to where it began. his sequence being... right hip-right forearm--right shoulder-left hip."

I personally believe that you are correct to state that TT taught that approach when he recommended a body pivot-driven swing rather than his other approach - a "right arm throw" swing. In his 5-day South Carolina TGM school lesson series, he stated that his downswing started with a movement of the right shoulder downplane, which then secondarily caused the pelvis to shift-rotate towards the target, and this lower body movement then ended up evolving into a left hip clearing action. In other words, Ben Hogan thought of starting the downswing with a pelvic shift-rotation movement that secondarily causes the right shoulder to move downplane, while TT taught the opposite approach.

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In other words, Ben Hogan thought of starting the downswing with a pelvic shift-rotation movement that secondarily causes the right shoulder to move downplane, while TT taught the opposite approach.
And "Hogan's approach" is Homer Kelley's Downstroke Sequence of 6-M-1 with its Pivot Delivered Power Package per 6-K-0. Also, the On Plane, Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn Lag and Cleared Right Hip of 6-B-4-C and 7-13; and, the Hip Action of 7-15 "throwing" the Right Shoulder (with its Loaded Power Package in tow) toward Impact.

For those now interested in the amplification of what I just said and in ordering The Book from The Golfing Machine, LLC http://thegolfingmachine.com/theBook/index.php, tell'em "Yoda sent me". No discount, of course, just my own continued personal satisfaction.

As far as Tom Tomasello's approach goes:

[Apologies in advance to Senators Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle.



I served with Tom Tomasello.

I knew Tom Tomasello.

Tom Tomasello was a friend of mine.

And any disciple (however devoted) -- I'm not referring to you, Jeff -- who attributes to Tom an uncocking right elbow from the Top . . . is no Tom Tomasello.

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Old 11-21-2008, 08:53 PM
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And "Hogan's approach" is Homer Kelley's Downstroke Sequence of 6-M-1 with its Pivot Delivered Power Package per 6-K-0. Also, the On Plane, Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn Lag and Cleared Right Hip of 6-B-4-C and 7-13; and, the Hip Action of 7-15 "throwing" the Right Shoulder (with its Loaded Power Package in tow) toward Impact.

For those now interested in the amplification of what I just said and in ordering The Book from The Golfing Machine, LLC http://thegolfingmachine.com/theBook/index.php, tell'em "Yoda sent me". No discount, of course, just my own continued personal satisfaction.

As far as Tom Tomasello's approach goes:

[Apologies in advance to Senators Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle.



I served with Tom Tomasello.

I knew Tom Tomasello.

Tom Tomasello was a friend of mine.

And any disciple (however devoted) -- I'm not referring to you, Jeff -- who attributes to Tom an uncocking right elbow from the Top . . . is no Tom Tomasello.

Lynn....

Look no farther than Tommy's GI interview....lever and unlever the right forearm....it's in the interview. Someone please send Lynn a copy of the interview....I'm off to dinner with my girl....won't be back on the internet until Sunday some time.

Chao,

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Old 11-21-2008, 10:18 PM
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geez....lets put this thread to bed.
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geez....lets put this thread to bed.
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