LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hula like pivot Thread: Hula like pivot View Single Post #3 12-12-2008, 09:42 PM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 Homer's Position On Backstroke Spine Angle Originally Posted by Jeff 12PB I am into sharing different perspectives. You think that they all leaning left, while I think that they are all leaning right (C7 further away from the target than L5) . Jeff. In The Golfing Machine and in his recorded teachings, Homer Kelley never once mentioned Backstroke Spine Angle. He never once mentioned "leaning left" or "leaning right" or even "staying vertical". All he asked was that golfers understand the necessity of maintaining a fixed point at the top of the Pivot (Pivot Center / The Glossary). He recommended the Head but did not mandate it (2-H). In fact, he offered an alternative, i.e., the "point between the shoulders" (Stationary Head / The Glossary). He expected that we readers could see the obvious validity of a Centered Arc (1-L #1 and #2) and made little bones about it in the first six editions. He simply illustrated the Standard Pivot (Photo 10-12-A #1) and placed a white marker behind his model's head (Photos 9-1-1/12). See also the Top in Photo 9-3-6. All clearly indicat that the Pivot Motion should be Centered (and emulated as depicted). As he prepared his revisions (in 1982-83) for his 7th edition (published posthumously in 2006), he realized our ineptness -- his three Authorized Instructor GSEM Classes helped here! -- and added this explicit text: The important thing is that the true Swing Center for ALL COMPONENTS is around a Hinge Pin with one end at the top of the Stationary Head and the other in the ground, precisely between the Feet, with no regard for Body Location or Position at any time. [All text effects by Homer Kelley / 2-H.]"Swing Center" . . . "ALL COMPONENTS" [including spine] . . . "Precisely between the Feet." Jeff, on your wonderful captured overhead photos of these four great golfers, please draw a vertical line from Mr. Kelley's "true Swing Center" (the Turned Head or the 'point between the shoulders') to the ground, and let's see where it lands. Thanks. __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda