LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - impact on TSP Thread: impact on TSP View Single Post #32 10-16-2009, 03:06 PM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by O.B.Left Yup, except the Right Elbow is not on the Shaft Plane and therefor neither is the Right Forearm. So no Right Forearm Flying Wedge structure there and since the Right Forearm is not pointing at the Base Line/Plane Line, the ability to Trace the Plane Line is severely handicapped. OB, It's obvious that the Right Shoulder Cannot Reach the Elbow Plane. It's also obvious that the Shaft Plane passes through a Point on the Body where the Right Elbow would touch. That Point is a Reference Point for one of the Plane Angle Variations in TGM. It's called the Elbow Plane. The problem is with the Book, not my analysis. The Book depicts the Elbow Plane as a Plane the Elbow Traces, not the Hands. That alone makes this Plane different and odd in comparison to any other Plane Angle Variation in the Book. In other words, the Elbow rests on the Plane Throughout the Stroke. The Hands and Clubshaft are raised above this plane during the Backstroke and must be Lowered to the Plane during the Downstroke. This is not a Rigid Power Package Stroke as outline and discussed in Chapter 6. So, if one is using the Elbow Plane, one must bend the Right Elbow to Raise the Club during the Backstroke and Unbend the Right Elbow during the Downstroke. It results in a CONCAVE Plane (ala-Ben Doyle). It's not Anti-Golfing Machine if one merely regards TGM as an explanation of the Golf Swing. But the Nature of this "Flexible" Power Package is not compatible with The Magic of the Right Forearm, Extensor Action, etc, etc. Any explanation of Hogans Stroke as far as concerns TGM, should include this kind of Elbow-Plane - Power Package analysis. Sooooo, needless to say, an Elbow Plane swing is Pivot Controlled Hands and the #3 PP cannot trace the Plane-line. Body Angles must be adjusted for Clubhead - Ball intersection. ANYONE-EVERYONE who bends and unbends the Right Elbow from Start-up to Release will be Swinging on the Elbow Plane. Last edited by Daryl : 10-16-2009 at 04:40 PM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl