LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - flat vs steep BS shoulder turn? Thread: flat vs steep BS shoulder turn? View Single Post #5 03-18-2011, 07:57 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket The hips can slide forward and the hip slant and shoulder slant not immediately "spin the fly wheel" . . . you'll see this in lots of players . . . hips and shoulders maintain their slant as the hips move forward . . . Just re reading this. Slide with a Delayed Turn (Hogan) will not spin the fly wheel agreed. You can not spin without turning. Turning, the Pivot as a giant rotor, ground up sequence, one of the two divergent vectors etc. But the Slide of the Hips given a centered head will tilt the right shoulder closer to the ground , or given forward waist bend down plane towards the ball. Buck baby, I think you are talking shoulder "slant" looking DTL while Im talking "tilt" caddy view? Maybe? I dunno. Imagine Hogan unsliding his hips in that first pic below his right shoulder would move up, no? Wouldnt be Hogan anymore, man that guy had a great set of hips. I dunno. Its way easier to see this shoulder axis tilt when the shoulders arent turned like they are Top. Thats why I picked that one there at impact. But the same tilt is there prior to Startdown for Hogan. PS just noticed the ellipses have a slide depicted ....never noticed that before. See how the Hip ellipse has slid target wards. That guy knew exactly what he was doing to include that in the drawing. Or not, whats up with the following ones though? What the.... Looks like he's hitting downhill all of a sudden mid swing. Hmmm editorial maybe? Hoover's FBI maybe? Didnt want the commies getting ahold of our golf secrets. Yup .....its all making sense to me now. Attached Thumbnails: Last edited by O.B.Left : 03-18-2011 at 11:47 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left