[MizunoJoe]

Ok ,so I know turning my left shoulder helps me create a Vertical Hinge from an Angle Hinge start-up. Now I have to try a standard set-up or anything else someone can suggest.

ICT

Sounds like you have regressed into a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. You're letting the Pivot be the master of your hands instead of the servant. Go back to the Imperatives - Trace the plane line with PP#3 using the Pivot with a no-roll feel and with a Flat Left Wrist, which will give you Angled Hinging.