Ok ,so I know turning my left shoulder helps me create a Vertical Hinge from an Angle Hinge start-up. Now I have to try a standard set-up or anything else someone can suggest.
ICT
Sounds like you have regressed into a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. You're letting the Pivot be the master of your hands instead of the servant. Go back to the Imperatives - Trace the plane line with PP#3 using the Pivot with a no-roll feel and with a Flat Left Wrist, which will give you Angled Hinging.
Sounds like you have regressed into a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. You're letting the Pivot be the master of your hands instead of the servant. Go back to the Imperatives - Trace the plane line with PP#3 using the Pivot with a no-roll feel and with a Flat Left Wrist, which will give you Angled Hinging.
I do need to keep that left wrist flat but say, do I cover the base line of the plane or trace it?
Thanks!
ICT
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I do need to keep that left wrist flat but say, do I cover the base line of the plane or trace it?
Thanks!
ICT
Trace it - do some flashlight work to get the hang of tracing the plane line with the imaginary line from PP#3 through the sweet spot. I've found the perfect flashlight for this - the Streamlight Stylus Pro, which is about the same diameter as a golf shaft and about 5" long, and takes 2 AAA batteries. Your hard work will surely pay off!
As MJ posted, it is traced with PP#3, covering the baseline is an illusion. I doubt you are toying with a pivot powered stroke as totally ignorant hands are needed and yours aren't. A hands controlled pivot is NOT a pivotless golf stroke.
As MJ posted, it is traced with PP#3, covering the baseline is an illusion. I doubt you are toying with a pivot powered stroke as totally ignorant hands are needed and yours aren't. A hands controlled pivot is NOT a pivotless golf stroke.
I hope he is, because Pivot Power is required!
Also, I presume no one thinks I implied that Hand Control implies no Pivot. On the contrary, he should start his tracing practice with Acquired Motion, which uses the Pivot to move the hands.
No I don't think anyone did but the one nut in all my TGM years to define is the role of the pivot in relation with the hands. Its the first thing taught by TGM, hands control the pivot but the pivot moves the hands so go straighten that out. Other then a small chip shot with flying wedges set and the motion almost all pivot, you have to have own some pretty untrained hands to be in the pivot controlled hands world.
No I don't think anyone did but the one nut in all my TGM years to define is the role of the pivot in relation with the hands. Its the first thing taught by TGM, hands control the pivot but the pivot moves the hands so go straighten that out. Other then a small chip shot with flying wedges set and the motion almost all pivot, you have to have own some pretty untrained hands to be in the pivot controlled hands world.
So we have no enemies only teachers-Ed z's line is good. With a 10.7 hcp. index I still have a lot to learn. That will get better as my chipping/sand game becomes routine with the use of the vertically un-cocking left wrist.
So I was sitting next to one of our coaches who had an online article he wrote about a local tournament. Says he's a seven hcp. I mentioned my lack of distance and he said he was a big Ben Hogan fan and spoke about how he tuned left by pulling his elbow left but the ball position has to be forward. Which sounds similar to Whip's bumping the hip and pulling it behind me.
So tomorrow I'll trace and march heel/heel and try a few shots pulling the elbow left as a down swing like stepping and swinging a bat. I know I can use the aiming point to the ball or to a location and I understand the priority of a hands controlled pivot. I know McHatton speaks of stepping left too. I might discover the secret is as simple as deciding to hit the ball further with the aiming point.
Report back soon. Thanks guys.
ICT
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 08-31-2012 at 01:29 AM.
best chipping advice I ever got : use a short hit stroke, let the folding right arm cock the left wrist, straighten right arm into ball which uncorks a passive left wrist.
So we have no enemies only teachers-Ed z's line is good. With a 10.7 hcp. index I still have a lot to learn. That will get better as my chipping/sand game becomes routine with the use of the vertically un-cocking left wrist.
So I was sitting next to one of our coaches who had an online article he wrote about a local tournament. Says he's a seven hcp. I mentioned my lack of distance and he said he was a big Ben Hogan fan and spoke about how he tuned left by pulling his elbow left but the ball position has to be forward. Which sounds similar to Whip's bumping the hip and pulling it behind me.
Report back soon. Thanks guys.
ICT
I suspect that you need to address the massive rotor if you have distance 'issues' when swinging. If a full correct shoulder turn were easy for everybody, then, according to a statistic I made up for this post, 80% of the population wouldn't suck at golf.
Bumpy
Edit: I went back and read some of your posts. You appear to be focusing on the downswing. You either have your backswing (the hard part for older golfers) down cold or you have a blind spot.