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Old 03-09-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mattsdad View Post
I am curious why your clubmaker thinks 207 grams should be the maximum clubhead weight with the rest of the weight going in the hosel. Adding weight in the hosel is effectively the same (from a swingweight perspective) as adding weight to the head. If weight is going to be added to the head to get it to 207 grams, and further weight is going to be put in the hosel, it would make more sense to put it all in the head. Unless I am missing something here.

Also, you may have already taken this into consideration, but adding weight to the head will make the shaft play softer unless the shaft is tipped to compensate. This would apply moreso to Hitters due to the nature of a Hitter's loading.
I orginally thought the same way you did, but I recently saw a MOI guide which indicated that weight in the hosel has a modestly lower MOI factor than weight on the rear corner of the club's sole.

I like my clubmaker alot, but I too didn't understand his idea to lower my clubhead's weight to 207 grams. I was so curious, I started this thread. Thought this was the right forum to ask about a hitter's club setups. (Interesting to learn that other hitters like back weighting, which I do as well.)

My shaft's swingspeed range is 89 to 99 mph, and my swing averages around 92 mph. Would you think the extra 7 mph would be sufficient leeway to handle the extra 12 grams of clubhead weight?
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rvwink View Post
I orginally thought the same way you did, but I recently saw a MOI guide which indicated that weight in the hosel has a modestly lower MOI factor than weight on the rear corner of the club's sole.

I like my clubmaker alot, but I too didn't understand his idea to lower my clubhead's weight to 207 grams. I was so curious, I started this thread. Thought this was the right forum to ask about a hitter's club setups. (Interesting to learn that other hitters like back weighting, which I do as well.)

My shaft's swingspeed range is 89 to 99 mph, and my swing averages around 92 mph. Would you think the extra 7 mph would be sufficient leeway to handle the extra 12 grams of clubhead weight?
First of all, I would be surprised if Wishon would be able to hand pick a head as light as 195 grams. The spec is 202 grams, and typical tolerances are +/- 2 grams. Assuming you wanted a total head weight of 209 grams, I would get Wishon to hand select the heaviest head they have and then reduce the amount required in the weight port and still achieve 209 grams. There may be a theoretical increase in MOI by adding weight to the outside of the head, but it would be insignificant in the scheme of things.

As for the shaft, it would be best to ask your clubmaker for his opinion since he should have a good idea of the shaft load you apply. Assuming the shaft is already cut to length, you can still tip it if necessary and add a shaft extension to get it back to the required length.

FWIW, I am a Swinger and prefer my drivers to be backweighted with about 35 grams.
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:22 PM
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If I use your assumption that the potential head weight swing is only 2 grams, then the head from Wishon would weight 200 grams even. I would be able to add about 9 grams to the rear of the club. I think that amount of weight, if positioned carefully, might add an extra 3/8ths of a degree of loft to the club plus a little more forgiveness as well. That would allow me to buy a 10.5 lofted driver instead of the 11 degree driver I am contemplating presently.

While I respect your opinion, and my clubmaker feels exactly the way you do, I still might do it. It is just about trying to maximize ones golf equipment, and I like the idea of gaining a bit more MOI in my new driver which has a relatively classic shape. I agree the stakes are by no means huge, but success is often in the small details.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:03 PM
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If I use your assumption that the potential head weight swing is only 2 grams, then the head from Wishon would weight 200 grams even. I would be able to add about 9 grams to the rear of the club. I think that amount of weight, if positioned carefully, might add an extra 3/8ths of a degree of loft to the club plus a little more forgiveness as well. That would allow me to buy a 10.5 lofted driver instead of the 11 degree driver I am contemplating presently.

While I respect your opinion, and my clubmaker feels exactly the way you do, I still might do it. It is just about trying to maximize ones golf equipment, and I like the idea of gaining a bit more MOI in my new driver which has a relatively classic shape. I agree the stakes are by no means huge, but success is often in the small details.
Fair enough. There is absolutely nothing wrong with how you want to do it and lead tape makes it easier to change the weight in the future. Good luck with the new stick.
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