Mr. Mike.O. I am a fan of your posts. and i also want to join you fan club.
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From my perspective it's not only the path that they take but the method that creates that path. You could pick up a ball off the ground or hit a baseball with the hands traveling on a nice plane but you could have created that motion in an un-coordinated method. In other words, you could have picked the ball off the ground by focusing on and having your intention to create a certain amount of knee flex and waist bend.
The Logic is there, but personally I would like to add what I had went through. Maybe for the benefit of people starting out or studying the book.
Justin did explain the exact logic to me. There are few fundamental hurdle.
No.1 like riding a bike, writing something, typing.. those are done subconsciously, but in order to become conscious , you have to have the correct "way" and trust them. Many abandon the "correct" way before trusting it and becoming subconscious. Thus We need incubator, coconut, and a good coach/mentor, or just stubbornly trust it . without it we lose faith and abandon the incubator.
No.2 The body , bending still need to be aligned a certain way in order to achieve a certain alignment. or follow a certain Model in TGM. Are your arm below the shoulder socket, too close to body? is your spine straight or bend down. etc.. A little of those would change Plane characteristics and loading behavior, angle of attack, visual equivalent. Not to mention we feel different Day to day .
No3 Experience and applications, There are tons of way to skin a cat. If your grip isn't correct for instance, or the flying wedge isn't correct for instance, We are not going to get the correct pressure points. Correct sequencing, different plane lines have slightly different sequence feel.
No.4 Overcoming perceptions.. 2j1,2,3, 3f5,6,7
Thats my difficulties , for someone who didn't understand much to begin with..
all pivot moves for all long shots. The difference is very little when i started to differentiate and to learn but gets more as my body understood more things. And it becomes clearer to me, that anything that involves accumulator 4 , the Pivot alignments and movement become even more important. Personally I believe, hand or pivot controlled? i believe in both. as we need zone 1 2 3 to work hand in hand.. proper alignment will yield the most consistent tendencies.
Cheers.
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Mr. Mike.O. I am a fan of your posts. and i also want to join you fan club.
The Logic is there, but personally I would like to add what I had went through. Maybe for the benefit of people starting out or studying the book.
Justin did explain the exact logic to me. There are few fundamental hurdle.
No.1 like riding a bike, writing something, typing.. those are done subconsciously, but in order to become conscious , you have to have the correct "way" and trust them. Many abandon the "correct" way before trusting it and becoming subconscious. Thus We need incubator, coconut, and a good coach/mentor, or just stubbornly trust it . without it we lose faith and abandon the incubator.
No.2 The body , bending still need to be aligned a certain way in order to achieve a certain alignment. or follow a certain Model in TGM. Are your arm below the shoulder socket, too close to body? is your spine straight or bend down. etc.. A little of those would change Plane characteristics and loading behavior, angle of attack, visual equivalent. Not to mention we feel different Day to day .
No3 Experience and applications, There are tons of way to skin a cat. If your grip isn't correct for instance, or the flying wedge isn't correct for instance, We are not going to get the correct pressure points. Correct sequencing, different plane lines have slightly different sequence feel.
No.4 Overcoming perceptions.. 2j1,2,3, 3f5,6,7
Thats my difficulties , for someone who didn't understand much to begin with..
all pivot moves for all long shots. The difference is very little when i started to differentiate and to learn but gets more as my body understood more things. And it becomes clearer to me, that anything that involves accumulator 4 , the Pivot alignments and movement become even more important. Personally I believe, hand or pivot controlled? i believe in both. as we need zone 1 2 3 to work hand in hand.. proper alignment will yield the most consistent tendencies.
Cheers.
First, Welcome to the club- when we reach sufficient numbers I will be calling - you'll be asked to work in secrecy - You'll need to move quickly and efficiently - Your destination with many others will be in the state of North Carolina, in a particular neighborhood, surrounding a particular house, .... I've already said too much - wait by the phone for the call.
Overall - you bring up a very valid and undeniable fact- that it takes years of experimentation, learning, adjustments:
"The body , bending still need to be aligned a certain way in order to achieve a certain alignment. or follow a certain Model in TGM. Are your arm below the shoulder socket, too close to body? is your spine straight or bend down. etc.. A little of those would change Plane characteristics and loading behavior, angle of attack, visual equivalent. Not to mention we feel different Day to day ."
So it's a slow process and painted with great detail. So in a simple example and a poor one - Let's say that the letter A represents a Hand Controlled Pivot- you're really not going to fully understand A until you grasp B-Z, and the sounds they make, and the words that they compose, etc. etc. But all along the way - if you understand that A is a letter and that the fact that B is a letter doesn't nullify A from being a letter - then you eventually can get to where you want to be (no pun intended!)
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So it's a slow process and painted with great detail. So in a simple example and a poor one - Let's say that the letter A represents a Hand Controlled Pivot- you're really not going to fully understand A until you grasp B-Z, and the sounds they make, and the words that they compose, etc. etc. But all along the way - if you understand that A is a letter and that the fact that B is a letter doesn't nullify A from being a letter - then you eventually can get to where you want to be (no pun intended!)
Amen!
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The beauty of TGM, in my opinion is the involvement of the translation of Mechanic to feel.
For example, Our INTENTION is to direct the pressure point 3 Down the plane. whist maintaining it.
So how our elbow is placed, how the grip is taken , How our body support the move, our tempo , change in direction all have to move in the certain way so that this "amount" pressure point is directed down the plane in a certain direction.. WITHOUT LOOKING, plainly with that intention and FEEL alone , the rest automatically happens resulting in way superior execution and compression. example how it works, Flatter plane will have a pressure more below the shaft, steeper plane more above the shaft.. The feel ( and also visual equivalent also reproduces mechanic )thus REPRODUCE MECHANIC. and ready to be adjusted with different shots at hand . ..That one of the many true magic of TGM. besides flying wedge, extensor action etc....
However, what is often neglected in studying TGM is that , The alignment of setup( Pivot controlled, and non pivot controlled), Path of club will yield different ball flight tendencies. For example.. If we tilt more at address, there is tendency of Push or under plane...But again, that knowledge is highly dependent on the experience of the applicator , in the facet of application, model knowledge, bio mechanics. There are many ways to shape a shot, some simpler and some more difficult.
Sorry for this Overly passionate need to discuss this thought.... I felt compelled to discuss my love for TGM.
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God :God is love.
Latest incubator: Finally appreciate why Hogan wrote 19 pages on GRIP. I bet he could write another 40 pages.
Aye President,, ready when you are ! I am preparing all the torture tools. I am happy to report my latest addition, a hydraulic golf ball crusher. Now that's the kind of attitude we need on the team! Other members take note!
Amen!
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The beauty of TGM, in my opinion is the involvement of the translation of Mechanic to feel.
For example, Our INTENTION is to direct the pressure point 3 Down the plane. whist maintaining it. Just realize that 1) intention, 2) what's visually happening and 3) feel are all separate categories- a subtle but eventually important distinction for you. I would say that the visual goal say looking at someone through a video camera would be to have the clubshaft always maintain it's relationship to the plane line- whether the intention of #3 is to move down plane is a separate issue. Food for thought.
So how our elbow is placed, how the grip is taken , How our body support the move, our tempo , change in direction all have to move in the certain way so that this "amount" pressure point is directed down the plane in a certain direction.. WITHOUT LOOKING, plainly with that intention and FEEL alone , the rest automatically happens resulting in way superior execution and compression. example how it works, Flatter plane will have a pressure more below the shaft, steeper plane more above the shaft.. The feel ( and also visual equivalent also reproduces mechanic )thus REPRODUCE MECHANIC. and ready to be adjusted with different shots at hand . ..That one of the many true magic of TGM. besides flying wedge, extensor action etc....
However, what is often neglected in studying TGM is that , The alignment of setup( Pivot controlled, and non pivot controlled), Path of club will yield different ball flight tendencies. For example.. If we tilt more at address, there is tendency of Push or under plane...But again, that knowledge is highly dependent on the experience of the applicator , in the facet of application, model knowledge, bio mechanics. There are many ways to shape a shot, some simpler and some more difficult.
Sorry for this Overly passionate need to discuss this thought.... I felt compelled to discuss my love for TGM.
See my comments above.
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Life Goal- Developing a new theory of movement based on Brain Science
Interests - Dabbling with insanity
Hobbies- Creating Quality
So it's a slow process and painted with great detail. So in a simple example and a poor one - Let's say that the letter A represents a Hand Controlled Pivot- you're really not going to fully understand A until you grasp B-Z, and the sounds they make, and the words that they compose, etc. etc. But all along the way - if you understand that A is a letter and that the fact that B is a letter doesn't nullify A from being a letter - then you eventually can get to where you want to be (no pun intended!)
So you finally listened to those Hooked On Phonics tapes you boosted from the library? Is y a vowel or a continent? A E I O U and sometimes Mike wears women's underwear.