Homer mentions the need for fast hands in 7-18, but that is in relation to a larger #3 angle and circle path. Slower hands being effective for straight line delivery with small #3 angle for a snap release.
What about all these boys on TOUR with big ole #3 angles trying to rip the ball with fast hands. Are they more inclined to be circle pathers?
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Mikey borrowed them when he was sprucing up his closet for the big coming out party.
Now you have pounced upon my point of this here discussion in the first place.
In answer to your question . . . hell naw . . . we should absolutely not make them circle pathers. I think that is what Ledbetter was trying to do in terms of "de-Lagging" people.
The answer is here "overacceleration is the menace that stalks all lag and drag" . . . even on the PGA tour.
The simple answer is SLOW down . . . don't overload. Most of them dudes are Swangers. Mr. Kelley said CF wants to travel at a certain speed which is probably slower than what we want particularly under the gun. My analysis of Eldrick's bad shots is overacceleration. I think his alignments are fabulous. That small pulley can't handle that much speed without bustin' up the works.
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In answer to your question . . . hell naw . . . we should absolutely not make them circle pathers. I think that is what Ledbetter was trying to do in terms of "de-Lagging" people.
The answer is here "overacceleration is the menace that stalks all lag and drag" . . . even on the PGA tour.
The simple answer is SLOW down . . . don't overload. Most of them dudes are Swangers. Mr. Kelley said CF wants to travel at a certain speed which is probably slower than what we want particularly under the gun. My analysis of Eldrick's bad shots is overacceleration. I think his alignments are fabulous. That small pulley can't handle that much speed without bustin' up the works.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
The simple answer is SLOW down . . . don't overload. Most of them dudes are Swangers. Mr. Kelley said CF wants to travel at a certain speed which is probably slower than what we want particularly under the gun.
I think Gregg McHatton is an extraordinary example of slow start down, small pulley, no chance whatsoever of overacceleration, and from what I've heard hits it a ton. His downswing takes 6 frames from what I could tell, and by just watching the swing I would have guessed about 10 or 11.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
Mikey borrowed them when he was sprucing up his closet for the big coming out party.
Now you have pounced upon my point of this here discussion in the first place.
In answer to your question . . . hell naw . . . we should absolutely not make them circle pathers. I think that is what Ledbetter was trying to do in terms of "de-Lagging" people.
The answer is here "overacceleration is the menace that stalks all lag and drag" . . . even on the PGA tour.
I'm gunna leave you alone now Bucket cause Yodas coming home soon and when he finds out about all the trouble I've been causing after breaking out of my wiring closet, he might take away my nerd badge.
But before I go, watchu got against circle path?
I'm not a big fan of it, but I've seen some pretty effective use. Why is it the black sheep in teaching circles. I have my thoughts about it, but trust y'all will work it out.
Thanks for letting me have recess.
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I'm gunna leave you alone now Bucket cause Yodas coming home soon and when he finds out about all the trouble I've been causing after breaking out of my wiring closet, he might take away my nerd badge.
But before I go, watchu got against circle path?
I'm not a big fan of it, but I've seen some pretty effective use. Why is it the black sheep in teaching circles. I have my thoughts about it, but trust y'all will work it out.
Thanks for letting me have recess.
Oh don't get me wrong I got nothing against Circle Path. Tom Watson was a sweepy type but he's got what 9 or so Majors? David Orr had a pick of a dude using Circle Path out here at one point and people freaked out and said it looked 'flickdid. But if he had just posted the impact pic . . . the same folks would have been like shaazaam! I think the Circle dealie is fine but inoder for you to get the same clubhead speed for full power shots you'd better be ready or have some hand speed. But for "arms shots" and short game shots and flops and non-pivot delivery strokes circle path is superior. Mr. Kelley said zero out your pivot and hit "full" shots arms shots and see what kind of distance and control you can creat. May be surprised.
I'm just trying to make a point that many who get jacked up about automatic snap releases and small pulleys and line delivery and max trigger delay . . . better SLOW DOWN to take maximum advantage of the mechanical advantage that a small pulley at the end of that endless belt presents.
I think that's why you see Tiger hit some weird out of character shots. He don't need another make-over. He needs to back it down just a little . . . he'd be nastier'n he already is. Think about that performance he gave at Ballibunion or wherever the heck that was. If he thought of the driver as his "play" club as Mr. Jones used to say . . . and brought the same sense of precision and reserve as he did those long irons rather than trying to come off the top rope, he may live on an $80 million dollar island, be #1 in the world and have one the hottest women on the planet as his old lady . . . uh wait a minute.
A. You don't need all that hand speed with a snap release . .. that's the whole point of the thing anyway.
B. The small pulley physically DEMANDS relatively slower handspeed . . . otherwise forget about precision alignments and potentially your flat left wrist.
A. You don't need all that hand speed with a snap release . .. that's the whole point of the thing anyway.
B. The small pulley physically DEMANDS relatively slower handspeed . . . otherwise forget about precision alignments and potentially your flat left wrist.
Amen!
Keep preach'in it brutha.
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