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Old 08-21-2007, 10:21 PM
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If accu 4 is to be active, shoulder pivot need to be active. ie shoulder throw.

For swinging , shoulder throw/Accumulator 4 , Instant hip acceleration are responsible for Drag loading and applying Pressure on PP 3 , pp 4 , pp 2. Not the elbow , not the wrist.

However, shoulder job is to blast the arms. if that answers your question. It doesn't become passive and its still need to carry on turning
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:41 AM
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Hi Nuke - i think i see what you are saying - but what i am saying is do you guys have your mind in your hands from the address position or only once you have loaded the lag??

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If accu 4 is to be active, shoulder pivot need to be active. ie shoulder throw.

For swinging , shoulder throw/Accumulator 4 , Instant hip acceleration are responsible for Drag loading and applying Pressure on PP 3 , pp 4 , pp 2. Not the elbow , not the wrist.

However, shoulder job is to blast the arms. if that answers your question. It doesn't become passive and its still need to carry on turning
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:05 AM
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for me, I only feel PP3 and maybe PP2 is monitored from top( lag loading) till follow through, both arm straight and the pressure eases when hand is shoulder height, finish of the swing or when the swing 'brakes'

But I would start monitoring my hands from the very beginning of the swing.. because the wrist gotta cock, bend, up the whatever plane you choose. so

"Mind" in the hand all the time, and its matters execution wise.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:41 AM
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"Sustain the lag"
The "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress" can only be sustained by active action/muscle contraction/pulling or pushing/acceleration, during which, for as long as possible:

the pivot keeps rotating or sliding or doing both against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress",

the arms keep pulling (in "swinging") or pushing (in "hitting") or doing both (in "switting") against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress".

Then, let the "LAW" determine the rest.

The club only takes the ride and the ball the punch.
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bts View Post
The "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress" can only be sustained by active action/muscle contraction/pulling or pushing/acceleration, during which, for as long as possible:

the pivot keeps rotating or sliding or doing both against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress",

the arms keep pulling (in "swinging") or pushing (in "hitting") or doing both (in "switting") against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress".

Then, let the "LAW" determine the rest.

The club only takes the ride and the ball the punch.
Do your really want to be rotating your pivot for as long as possible?
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:31 AM
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Do your really want to be rotating your pivot for as long as possible?

Hey, Clubhead Lag has NO Release Point .
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:43 PM
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Do your really want to be rotating your pivot for as long as possible?
I'd like to read more/confirm:

Isn't the case where body rotation starts the gyroscope, then it's all cetrifugal force. Any active addition of pivot would disrupt the action of cetrifugal force. Body responds to centrifugal force. Cetrifugal force creates clubhead change (sustains clubhead lag). All the swinger has to do is get things started.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SECGolf View Post
I'd like to read more/confirm:

Isn't the case where body rotation starts the gyroscope, then it's all cetrifugal force. Any active addition of pivot would disrupt the action of cetrifugal force. Body responds to centrifugal force. Cetrifugal force creates clubhead change (sustains clubhead lag). All the swinger has to do is get things started.
This is pretty much what i was trying to say - the pivot drives the powerpackage into orbit around a stationary post/something/head/base of neck and release 4, then 2 then 3... the pivot doesn't stop moving but it slows during the accumulator releases and moves just enough to enable sutained lag pressure... but in a swinger the pivot is not driving the lag pressure.... at least that is the way i have interpreted it.

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