for me, I only feel PP3 and maybe PP2 is monitored from top( lag loading) till follow through, both arm straight and the pressure eases when hand is shoulder height, finish of the swing or when the swing 'brakes'
But I would start monitoring my hands from the very beginning of the swing.. because the wrist gotta cock, bend, up the whatever plane you choose. so
"Mind" in the hand all the time, and its matters execution wise.
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The "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress" can only be sustained by active action/muscle contraction/pulling or pushing/acceleration, during which, for as long as possible:
the pivot keeps rotating or sliding or doing both against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress",
the arms keep pulling (in "swinging") or pushing (in "hitting") or doing both (in "switting") against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress".
Then, let the "LAW" determine the rest.
The club only takes the ride and the ball the punch.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
The "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress" can only be sustained by active action/muscle contraction/pulling or pushing/acceleration, during which, for as long as possible:
the pivot keeps rotating or sliding or doing both against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress",
the arms keep pulling (in "swinging") or pushing (in "hitting") or doing both (in "switting") against the "Lag/pressure/resistance/torque/tension/stress".
Then, let the "LAW" determine the rest.
The club only takes the ride and the ball the punch.
Do your really want to be rotating your pivot for as long as possible?
Do your really want to be rotating your pivot for as long as possible?
I'd like to read more/confirm:
Isn't the case where body rotation starts the gyroscope, then it's all cetrifugal force. Any active addition of pivot would disrupt the action of cetrifugal force. Body responds to centrifugal force. Cetrifugal force creates clubhead change (sustains clubhead lag). All the swinger has to do is get things started.
Isn't the case where body rotation starts the gyroscope, then it's all cetrifugal force. Any active addition of pivot would disrupt the action of cetrifugal force. Body responds to centrifugal force. Cetrifugal force creates clubhead change (sustains clubhead lag). All the swinger has to do is get things started.
This is pretty much what i was trying to say - the pivot drives the powerpackage into orbit around a stationary post/something/head/base of neck and release 4, then 2 then 3... the pivot doesn't stop moving but it slows during the accumulator releases and moves just enough to enable sutained lag pressure... but in a swinger the pivot is not driving the lag pressure.... at least that is the way i have interpreted it.
Thanks for your comments guys. Helpful discussion for me!
The right shoulder keep turning and never stop turning for swinging or hitting as matter of fact. especially important in order to keep the left wrist flat, and not to run out of right arm. and also maintaining the PP3 lag pressure. the main cause of throwaway, chicken wing, in swingers. As drew stated.. Lag have no release point for PP3 especially.
The pivot turn/ shoulder is the one throwing against the lag pressure point from the top in 7-19, and the wrist get thrown by or moves together with/by the shoulder , ..Or another way of explanation is,the shoulder throw against lag pressure points . The pivot does not decelerates at any point except it brakes near the end of the swing. For swinging, the speed of pivot is the same throughout, hitting, the speed of pivot is gradually increasing due to the different Physics of loading.
Hand controlled pivot , have nothing to do with how much the hand moves or the pivot moves, they have to move in rhythm. And the hand move in precedence to where the pivot have to move. You monitor one thing but all zones need to be correct. They all need to move correctly.. everything is inter-Dependant. and nothing is independent ( the concept of rhythm)
It simply means how the hand is monitored. Awareness of the pressure, the position of the hand and finally the feel is what reproduces the mechanics.
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The pivot does not decelerates at any point except it brakes near the end of the swing. For swinging, the speed of pivot is the same throughout, hitting, the speed of pivot is gradually increasing due to the different Physics of loading.
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Nuke, do you think that the pivot maintains constant speed throughout swinging motion?
The right shoulder keep turning and never stop turning for swinging or hitting as matter of fact. especially important in order to keep the left wrist flat, and not to run out of right arm. and also maintaining the PP3 lag pressure. the main cause of throwaway, chicken wing, in swingers. As drew stated.. Lag have no release point for PP3 especially.
The pivot turn/ shoulder is the one throwing against the lag pressure point from the top in 7-19, and the wrist get thrown by or moves together with/by the shoulder , ..Or another way of explanation is,the shoulder throw against lag pressure points . The pivot does not decelerates at any point except it brakes near the end of the swing. For swinging, the speed of pivot is the same throughout, hitting, the speed of pivot is gradually increasing due to the different Physics of loading.
Hand controlled pivot , have nothing to do with how much the hand moves or the pivot moves, they have to move in rhythm. And the hand move in precedence to where the pivot have to move. You monitor one thing but all zones need to be correct. They all need to move correctly.. everything is inter-Dependant. and nothing is independent ( the concept of rhythm)
It simply means how the hand is monitored. Awareness of the pressure, the position of the hand and finally the feel is what reproduces the mechanics.
With a Shoulder Throw Trigger does the right shoulder thrust in the direction of the left bicep in order to set the #4 pp or does it thrust toward Aiming Point?
This is pretty much what i was trying to say - the pivot drives the powerpackage into orbit around a stationary post/something/head/base of neck and release 4, then 2 then 3... the pivot doesn't stop moving but it slows during the accumulator releases and moves just enough to enable sutained lag pressure... but in a swinger the pivot is not driving the lag pressure.... at least that is the way i have interpreted it.
Thanks for your comments guys. Helpful discussion for me!
I have to say golfbulldog i am really on the other end of the spectrum than you on this. Really don't get this comment 'but in a swinger the pivot is not driving the lag pressure'
To let you know where i'm coming from: in my case (i'm a swinger also) my pivot certainly does a hell of a lot more than get things started. I feel like it works hard all the way through the ball, anything else and i'm taking the first plane to throw away city.
I swing to end and release pp #4 fairly deep into the downswing. The hands have to travel along way to get their with pp #4 intact, for me thats a lot of pivot work. Even when pp #4 is released theirs still lots of work going on. When i have problems with throwaway i'll often work on my pivot and maintaining the load in my feet from the start of the downswing right through impact. I mean when your dragging a wet mop, does it feel effortless to you?
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