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Old 09-14-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
So, as a general rule, I would say that higher handicap players (particularly those with a Slicing problem) should attempt to Feel more Wrist Roll through Impact -- counter-clockwise rotation of the Hands -- and better players (particularly those with a Hooking problem) should Feel less (and maybe even none). Assuming correct Execution of the Hinge Action, the Clubface will perform identically for each player, despite their 'opposite' Feels.

This is precisely what guys like me find most difficult to feel; let alone achieve the desired result from obtaining that feeling.

The more I swing out and down to right field and the more I then roll and swivel post impact the worse the results I get.

I see Tour players on TV hitting the ball seemingly dead straight from what seems to be almost an outside in path and contact directly on the rear of the ball. You could, almost, accuse them of steering the ball towards the target.

I see take aways for swingers and approaches into impact that are nothing more seemingly than paddle wheel motions. No laying of the club face against the inclined plane on, or immediately after, take away or any overt rolling of the club face from laying on plane to back to impact alignments on the down swing.

Seems to me that the descriptions of what really happens in the golf swing are very much overcooked in order to get an idea across.

Certainly, the more I try to fulfill the seemingly required criteria the worse the result. This can, of course, simply be down to me and inadequate execution - y'all quiet down now, ya hear!

On the other hand, if I just swing the club back, in and up, then down, out, in and up again, with the sole intention of just staying on plane and smacking the ball square in the A$$ in an attempt to propel it forwards, I achieve acceptable results.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Burner View Post
This is precisely what guys like me find most difficult to feel; let alone achieve the desired result from obtaining that feeling.

The more I swing out and down to right field and the more I then roll and swivel post impact the worse the results I get.

I see Tour players on TV hitting the ball seemingly dead straight from what seems to be almost an outside in path and contact directly on the rear of the ball. You could, almost, accuse them of steering the ball towards the target.

I see take aways for swingers and approaches into impact that are nothing more seemingly than paddle wheel motions. No laying of the club face against the inclined plane on, or immediately after, take away or any overt rolling of the club face from laying on plane to back to impact alignments on the down swing.

Seems to me that the descriptions of what really happens in the golf swing are very much overcooked in order to get an idea across.

Certainly, the more I try to fulfill the seemingly required criteria the worse the result. This can, of course, simply be down to me and inadequate execution - y'all quiet down now, ya hear!

On the other hand, if I just swing the club back, in and up, then down, out, in and up again, with the sole intention of just staying on plane and smacking the ball square in the A$$ in an attempt to propel it forwards, I achieve acceptable results.

Maybe your action already has sufficient down and out, and your efforts to go down and out consciously is causing you to be underplane?
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:10 PM
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Maybe your action already has sufficient down and out, and your efforts to go down and out consciously is causing you to be underplane?
Could be so and that would explain the high, wide and relatively short swipes out to right field, not to mention the occasional, compensatory, OB left.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:18 PM
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This is precisely what guys like me find most difficult to feel; let alone achieve the desired result from obtaining that feeling.

The more I swing out and down to right field and the more I then roll and swivel post impact the worse the results I get.
This is why I like a Laser to trace the base or Plane Line over a training aid like the vision track for Swingers. You need to ROLL on LINE. Trace the Plane line and Roll on that Line. This is not the path of the hands. This is the path of the clubhead. Roll ON Line.

Swingers with a vertical on plane uncocking of Acc#2 and the transfer power from the roll of acc#3 will keep a laser lite/clubhead tracing the Base/Plane Line.


This of course is not a Hinge Action.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:54 PM
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This is why I like a Laser to trace the base or Plane Line over a training aid like the vision track for Swingers. You need to ROLL on LINE. Trace the Plane line and Roll on that Line. This is not the path of the hands. This is the path of the clubhead. Roll ON Line.

Swingers with a vertical on plane uncocking of Acc#2 and the transfer power from the roll of acc#3 will keep a laser lite/clubhead tracing the Base/Plane Line.

This of course is not a Hinge Action.
Hi Mike,

Thanks for your input.

My plane tracing work involves the use of end to end flashlights.

When doing this work I find that covert rolling clockwise on the back swing and then counter clockwise on the down swing and follow through does not feature. This supposed rolling seems to be simply a by-product of the on plane motion. Furthermore, I have no sensation of swinging out to right field when doing this.

Over egging these terms, certainly in my case, caused real problems and I am now trying very hard to get back to the way I used to swing before I got caught up in these notions.

When I used the VisionTrack I found it helpful in that it encouraged the keeping of the right shoulder inside the plane line, so to speak, i.e discouraged round-housing. However, an angle of approach of 11* seemed a little severe for this purpose. Too much out to right field I thought.
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