The "intent of Hitting" is the "Cause" and the "Feel" is the "Effect".
You either feel what you intend to do and feel or don't feel.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
Hitters drive (push) the entire club- shaft and clubhead through the ball. There is no whirl- no arc of approach but an ANGLE of approach.
Agreed 6bmike, this is exactly what I "see": the angle of approach line crossing the target line and going to right field... and it's working well.
Now, quoting 2-M-4: "...consider Pivot Thrust as Body Power blasting a Swinger's essentially inert Left Arm into orbit toward Impact, or as supplying the initial acceleration of the Hitter's loaded Power Package so the Clubhead can be endowed with Pivot speed PLUS Right Triceps Speed",
don't you think that, even if the Hitter doesn't whirl the clubhead, he feels the clubhead accelerating and feels CF as an incidence of the motion just created???
It's not me, it's physics: I think that hitting or swinging (different sources of power), the clubhead moves in an orbit around the shoulder hinge. And everything orbiting has Centrifugal Force.
Thus, we should feel that resulting CF while hitting, right?!
It would be nice if an accomplished 4 barrel hitter like TED could describe if he feels that (Luke, do you feel the (Centrifugal) Force? ).
Agreed 6bmike, this is exactly what I "see": the angle of approach line crossing the target line and going to right field... and it's working well.
Now, quoting 2-M-4: "...consider Pivot Thrust as Body Power blasting a Swinger's essentially inert Left Arm into orbit toward Impact, or as supplying the initial acceleration of the Hitter's loaded Power Package so the Clubhead can be endowed with Pivot speed PLUS Right Triceps Speed",
don't you think that, even if the Hitter doesn't whirl the clubhead, he feels the clubhead accelerating and feels CF as an incidence of the motion just created???
It's not me, it's physics: I think that hitting or swinging (different sources of power), the clubhead moves in an orbit around the shoulder hinge. And everything orbiting has Centrifugal Force.
Thus, we should feel that resulting CF while hitting, right?!
It would be nice if an accomplished 4 barrel hitter like TED could describe if he feels that (Luke, do you feel the (Centrifugal) Force? ).
Not physics- geometry. the clubhead still moves in a circle except the whole radius of the club is pushed. The clubhead is not whirled. Like beating a carpet on a clothes line instead of whirling a rock on a string. CF needs greater throw-out- a quick move from the start. A hitter plots his course. There is no CF in lower throw-out speeds. Muscle power only. A batering ram instead of a catapolt. CF is uncontrolable- you give up control to the forces of Newton. Hitters maintain control and push/drive the club to low point. Swingers live on the edge of throw-away. Their only control is propr mechanics of the gryo- right shoulder thrust.
I think that Yodasluke has written in differents threads that he is a four barrels hitter, and start the downswing with a "swinger feeling" in PP#4.
Start like a swinger and then push like a hitter ?
Feel like a swinger startdown then push like a hitter
Originally Posted by phimaynard
I think that Yodasluke has written in differents threads that he is a four barrels hitter, and start the downswing with a "swinger feeling" in PP#4.
Start like a swinger and then push like a hitter ?
Exactly my feeling!
PP4 blasts of my left arm from my chest - it feels like a swinger startdown - BUT as soon as ACC#4 releases, I "catch the momentum" and add more power to the motion by strongly drive the whole unit (arm+club) down and out to the ground.
The power produced by this procedure is amazing and I think it explains why Ted drasticaly increased the lenght of his shots!
I certify that my clubface is producing angled hinging with the distinctive no-roll feel.
I could also SWING using the same startdown (using PP4 to blast the left arm of the chest) but I will whirl the clubhead to impact instead of driving it.
The result is a distinctive horizontal hinging with a full-roll feel.
So to summup things:
For me, Hitting or Swinging, the blast of the left arm from the chest using PP4 is the same - So are the feelings AT THIS MOMENT of the swing.
Then ONLY at ACC#4 release, the different feels between hitting and swinging happen.
ExtensorMike - if he feels CF while hitting, he's actually right arm svinging??
..or will it be possible to feel CF from the top to release, and then confound drive out lag pressure with CF lag pressure into impact??
Yodeli is saying that he feels CF while hitting, does anyone have an explanation/TGM interpretation?
No he isn't right arm swinging. I don't open that can. No CF at the top- CF is a throw-out of the clubhead. You can start down like a swinger but that isn't CF. A hitters push will slow down a clubhead released by CF. Like wise a swinger can't 'push the club' after releasing it via CF.
ExtensorMike - if he feels CF while hitting, he's actually right arm svinging??
..or will it be possible to feel CF from the top to release, and then confound drive out lag pressure with CF lag pressure into impact??
Yodeli is saying that he feels CF while hitting, does anyone have an explanation/TGM interpretation?
This swinger feeling in PP4 while attempting to hit confused me a lot and I thought I was mixing.
Then, recently I read 2-M-4:
Homer says that "[Pivot Thrust is] supplying the initial acceleration of the Hitter's loaded Power Package so the Clubhead can be endowed with Pivot speed PLUS Right Triceps Speed".
In this chapter, Homer doesn't say that the pivot is doing something different, Hitting or Swinging.
He just says that Pivot Thrust (one Action, Hitting or Swinging) is accelerating the loaded power package (the result of the Action when Hitting) or blasts the inert left arm (the result of the Action when Swinging).
Originally Posted by Thom
..or will it be possible to feel CF from the top to release, and then confound drive out lag pressure with CF lag pressure into impact??
Thom,
I think you put the finger on something:
Imagine your left arm and clubshaft as one straight and stiff unit attached to your left shoulder (my thought at impact fix).
Then, pick up the whole unit accross your chest using a hitter's takeaway.
Then, load ACC#4 and feel PP4 by turning your body to the target.
The left arm flying wedge (the "whole stiff unit") will follow and will be blast of the chest somewhere halfway down when ACC#4 starts to release.
Then ADD more power by driving the whole unit using right arm thrust.
You will agree that that way of considering the left arm+club as one unit is clearly not a swinging procedure!
However if you think of what is happening in step 4 above, the "whole stiff unit" initially accelerated by the pivot could kinda fell like CF until you activate the thrust of the right arm!!!
I am interested in Yodeli's commentary that a pivot action is necessary prior to hitting with the right arm (triceps activation actively extending the right elbow). I can envisage the downswing pivot action throwing the left arm off the chest wall with a very assertive (very active) right shoulder thrust maneuver, and I can also envisage a more gentle right shoulder thrust maneuver that simply moves the power package assembly downplane, and into a mid-downswing position where the right arm can start to actively power the downswing via a hitting action. Which of these two options is recommended for a hitter?
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