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Old 11-04-2008, 09:27 PM
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The way the right elbow is positioned and the arm role in supporting the assembly really makes a difference IMO.

if the right arm is in a slightly more pitch position . in a position to pull the shaft longitudinally.. swing. Slower rate of closing. Fast overtaking.

and fans open.. more punch position.. it will be in a position to push the shaft.. Faster rate of closing . Slow overtaking.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:40 PM
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The way the right elbow is positioned and the arm role in supporting the assembly really makes a difference IMO.

if the right arm is in a slightly more pitch position . in a position to pull the shaft longitudinally.. swing. Slower rate of closing. Fast overtaking.

and fans open.. more punch position.. it will be in a position to push the shaft.. Faster rate of closing . Slow overtaking.
Excellent, nuke. I've bolded areas of emphasis:

We're talking about the #3 Accumulator (Left Arm / Clubshaft Angle) . . . and its Maximum versus Minimum Trigger Delay, right?

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Old 11-05-2008, 11:48 AM
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What do you think of Biomechanic's idea that one should swing from the top and hit at the bottom?

I get the impression from reading your archived posts that you believe that a swinger uses the PA release sequence of 4:2:3 and that there is no active hitting (active release of PA #1) in the late phase of a swinger's downswing action because centrifugal action alone accounts for release for the club and that there would be no benefit, and a considerable risk of harm, if a golfer attempted to actively hit at the bottom by actively releasing PA #1.

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Old 11-05-2008, 12:06 PM
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What do you think of Biomechanic's idea that one should swing from the top and hit at the bottom?

I get the impression from reading your archived posts that you believe that a swinger uses the PA release sequence of 4:2:3 and that there is no active hitting (active release of PA #1) in the late phase of a swinger's downswing action because centrifugal action alone accounts for release for the club and that there would be no benefit, and a considerable risk of harm, if a golfer attempted to actively hit at the bottom by actively releasing PA #1.

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Old 11-05-2008, 02:56 PM
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Could you please expound on how you would accomplish that goal?

I thought that if one had an optimized pivot action with optimized release of PA#4 that it would thereby optimize release of PA#2 via a centrifugal action, and that it wouldn't allow for any additional club release power via PA#1 because the club had already been released at an optimal speed.

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Old 11-05-2008, 03:57 PM
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Could you please expound on how you would accomplish that goal?

I thought that if one had an optimized pivot action with optimized release of PA#4 that it would thereby optimize release of PA#2 via a centrifugal action, and that it wouldn't allow for any additional club release power via PA#1 because the club had already been released at an optimal speed.

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Re-read last two lines of 2-M-3. Only with a driver, only with a driver, only with a driver when there is a need for maximum power and you can stand the risk. The Swinger’s can further accelerated the LEFT ARM and loaded Left Wrist with a strong PP#1 (#1 is part of the Arms not the Hands) to support the Pull of Centrifugal Force. If the Swinger tries to accelerate the clubshaft at PP#3 (which is Hitting), he runs into the risk of overriding centrifugal force, which is a power loss and usually results in a Bent Left Wrist at Impact.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:43 PM
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A further question.

If the right arm applies active power to PP#1 to supply more power to the left arm in a driver swing, when should that occur? If it occurs near-impact, will the right arm-induced acceleration of the left arm prevent the left arm from slowing pre-impact - some people believe that left arm slowing is a necessity in the late downswing to allow the club release phenomenon to happen as a kinetic link COAM phenomenon.

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Re-read last two lines of 2-M-3. Only with a driver, only with a driver, only with a driver when there is a need for maximum power and you can stand the risk. The Swinger’s can further accelerated the LEFT ARM and loaded Left Wrist with a strong PP#1 (#1 is part of the Arms not the Hands) to support the Pull of Centrifugal Force. If the Swinger tries to accelerate the clubshaft at PP#3 (which is Hitting), he runs into the risk of overriding centrifugal force, which is a power loss and usually results in a Bent Left Wrist at Impact.
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it always puzzle me, How important are Zone 1 in your opinion on this?
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:19 PM
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Excellent, nuke. I've bolded areas of emphasis:

We're talking about the #3 Accumulator (Left Arm / Clubshaft Angle) . . . and its Maximum versus Minimum Trigger Delay, right?

Master Yoda..

effect on acc 1 on 2 /3 and the inline condition. Sequential vs overlaping release in various degree ( how deep is the elbow).


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