I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.
Fact 1
Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.
Fact 2
The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.
I have studied 7:3 and I can idenitify two important facts re: the right forearm.
Fact 1
Top of the backswing - the right forearm is positioned perpendicular to the "on plane loading of the primary lever assembly" in hitters and the "on plane loading of the secondary lever assembly" in swingers.
Fact 2
The right forearm must be driven into impact (hitters) or thrown into impact (swingers) on-plane = pointing at the plane line as the angle of attack. In hitters, there is also an "angle of approach" and the right forearm must leave impact fix alignment along this "angle of approach" during the right forearm takeaway and return along this "angle of approach" in the late downswing.
Is that correct. Are there more insights?
Jeff.
Jeff,
Correct? I really don't know without re-reading 7-3 in light of what you are saying .
More insights? Again, I really have nothing more to offer at this stage.
I would have to revisit the text with your thought in mind and get a little more analytical before I could offer arguments that might suit your purpose.
Perhaps there are other cyber correspondents who could engage you in this subject.
For my part, I am happy to simply accept Mr Kelley's offerings until I am sure that he and I are at divergence, in which event I would refer to the Trustee of his legacy - Yoda.
Jeff, the magic of the right forearm means for me (not full-time TGMer) that your right (rear) forearm bones can act alongside (paralelly) to the shaft - sort of being the elongation of the shaft....especially approaching and executing impact. Think: nunchakoo sticks - your right forearm is the upper stick, your wrist is the chain and your shaft is the lower stick. Forget about the grip in this visualization.
I fully agree that the right forearm should be "on-plane"' at impact and aligned behind the shaft along the elbow plane. However, I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic". Also, if one uses a right forearm takeaway, it is possible for the right forearm (through its three dimensional motion in space) to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the backswing. That means that the right forearm has "magic" in the backswing as well. That's why I was posing this question - I am trying to understand the conceptual extent of the "magic of the right forearm" in different golfer's minds.
. . . I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic".
[Additional bold emphasis by Yoda.]
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) withoutitself being On Plane.
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
The Right Forearm will be on Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane; Release to Follow Through.
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
Thats a great question. Understanding exactly when the RF is on plane, when it diverges and realigns seems crucial for alignment golf.
I think many of us understand where it must be at times, but not all the time, and that incomplete understanding leads to fog/confusion.
Further, I think we would benefit from understanding 'RF alignment through the swing' of pro players whose RF's are not on plane with the shaft at address.
Lynn and Jeff, the problem that I see is that if we want to start the takeaway with the rear forearm in line with the shaft is that:
- either the arm is too bent in elbow and the ball position too much forward without any cock of the wrist at address
- or one needs to execute an impact fix position at address with a relatively strong RH grip.
I believe that is why e.g. Hogan was perfectly aware that both are unefficient methods of addresing (vide: "5 Lessons") and he accepted the fact that the rear forearm magic start to act exactly when the golfer returns to the elbow plane during downswing - the sooner the better.
Hybrid Mode
