Pivot center
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12-14-2008, 11:26 PM
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Only Vertical Pivot Hinge Pins
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So, in this photo of Tiger Woods, does the yellow line represent the hinge pin around which the true Swing Center exists/rotates?

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No, Jeff.
Draw the yellow line vertical (to the ground) from what you perceive to be the Stroke Center (Turned Head or 'Point Between the Shoulders).
On second thought, given the bias in your last rendering, just draw it from the 'Point between the Shoulders'.

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12-14-2008, 11:30 PM
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Jeff,
One last thing... you should put a disclaimer on your vids about your self-proclaimed inability to demonstrate about which you speak... be it accurate or not. Don't leave it up for someone to guess that "Imperfect Golfer" means "what you see is not what I mean" ..... I would expect more from someone who prides themself on the accuracy of their written word. It might give the viewer the proper perspective to use while viewing.
I for one am quite wary of those that can't demonstrate what they believe should be happening in a golf swing. You just added another reason to think that way.
CG
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12-15-2008, 12:05 AM
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This is my last post concerning my personal website, which is merely a pet hobby interest. If anybody wants to discuss it, they can send a PM. I am here to discuss HK's ideas and learn more about the TGM system.
I have made a disclaimer in my first swing video about my visual demonstrations not being accurate. Secondly, I am not an "TGM expert". My website represents my personal views, and it is is only TGM-influenced. It is not ever going to be a TGM website.
You wrote-: "I for one am quite wary of those that can't demonstrate what they believe should be happening in a golf swing." Many, many people have expressed similar sentiments. That's fine. They should all ignore my opinions re: golf instructional material.
You wrote-: "Please make sure you get the Gulbis sequence on there as well to support your theories."
That statement reflects your character, and therefore your opinion doesn't represent a constructive comment that will help me make my personal website more accurate.
Jeff.
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12-15-2008, 12:17 AM
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Yoda - I drew the yellow line exactly as HK specified in that sentence - between the top of the stationary head and a point on the ground precisely between the feet.
By the way, is the true swing center for all components the same swing center as the pivot center?
Jeff.
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12-15-2008, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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O.B.,
Since Jeff will give you some story about searching out the truth et.c etc. Let me answer this for you - his mission is to drive people insane- Bucket and I have him on a retainer fee for this exact purpose.
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Looks like its workin just fine Mike. But I've got this feeling that you and Bucket are like re reading these posts just for kicks, cause you guys are even more totally friggin nuts. Careful you dont overdue it there on your own medicine.
Secrets in the sauce.
O.B.
Last edited by O.B.Left : 12-15-2008 at 12:32 AM.
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12-15-2008, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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Looks like its workin just fine Mike. But I've got this feeling that you and Bucket are like re reading these posts just for kicks, cause you guys are even more totally friggin nuts. Careful you dont overdue it there on your own medicine.
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Well said but I'm still putting you on my list!  No not that list- this list  I went to look at Jeff's swinging video but got sidetracked with Sasha is a goddess.
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12-15-2008, 12:51 AM
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Thinking Man's Game
Originally Posted by Jeff
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Yoda - I drew the yellow line exactly as HK specified in that sentence - between the top of the stationary head and a point on the ground precisely between the feet.
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As stated in several of my prior posts, the Pivot Hinge Pin is presumed vertical to the ground.
"G.O.L.F. is a game for thinkers, and as detailed as this book is, it is still geatly dependent on thinking players" (1-G).
-- Homer Kelley 
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12-15-2008, 01:03 AM
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If the stationary head must be precisely centralized between the feet, and the hinge pin for the pivot center's rotation must be a vertical line drawn from the top of the stationary head to the ground, then the hinge pin line will simply be a vertical line drawn precisely between the feet with the pivot center located on that line at address.
That's why I think that most golfers (like Tiger Woods) do not have a pivot center in their swing.
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12-15-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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Well said but I'm still putting you on my list! No not that list- this list I went to look at Jeff's swinging video but got sidetracked with Sasha is a goddess.
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Knew it. Sasha Lynn Blake is one of your operatives too, isnt she. That is even more diabolical than your Jeff thing. Frig you and Bucket are evil.
What do you mean your "final 18 posts". Did Bagger decode your evil hacker (and I mean this strictly in the computer sense of the word, respec) ways?
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12-15-2008, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff
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Cometgolfer
This is my last post concerning my personal website, which is merely a pet hobby interest. If anybody wants to discuss it, they can send a PM. I am here to discuss HK's ideas and learn more about the TGM system.
You wrote-: "Please make sure you get the Gulbis sequence on there as well to support your theories."
That statement reflects your character, and therefore your opinion doesn't represent a constructive comment that will help me make my personal website more accurate.
Jeff.
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Jeff,
You're the one who muddied the LBG site with Gulbis as your "new-and-improved" version of pivot center being the "set distance of the left shoulder socket from the ball at impact". I'm not sure why my request that you post that same swing sequence on your website as a reflection of your understanding of a proper golf swing is now an indicator of my "character"? Sounds like more imprecision on your part.
It would be a shame if your "pet hobby" messed up other people's hobby.
CG
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