How Do I Start the Club Back?

[EdZ]

1. Should we lift with the shoulder or bend at the elbow or both?
2. If both, then how much elbow bend?
3. What Muscles do I use?
4. Which Muscles should I avoid? Why?
5. How far back?
6. How far Up?
7. Where should my Right Elbow be?
8. How Far should my Right Elbow extend from my Torso? My Hands?
9. Should we try and get the Left Arm to lay Flat across the chest or at 45 degrees or somewhere in-between?
10. When should we turn the Right Hand to the plane?
11. When do I know that I've reach Top? Geometrically?
12. When do I know that I've reached End? How can I tell?
13. Should I change anything for a Half Swing?

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Wow Daryl, do you think that much when you walk or drive? (if so, what kind of car do you drive so I can avoid you on the roads)

It really is far simpler than your post!

[Daryl]

Wow Daryl, do you think that much when you walk or drive? (if so, what kind of car do you drive so I can avoid you on the roads)

It really is far simpler than your post!

My thinking is clearer and insightful when I Drive or walk, but I'm sitting when I post, which explains a lot of things I write.

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[BerntR]

Bringing this thread back to life again.

At address I visualize the clubhead action through the ball to produce that shot. From there I try to establish or program the required pressurepoint alignments in the hands. And I try to reproduce those through impact.

Physically, I start the back stroke with the hands and the feet at the same time. Minimal pivot resistance in the early part of the back stroke is important to me. I've never been successfully starting the back stroke with the right forearm alone and I often have to be deliberate about starting the pivot together with the hands.

With the putter, I've been quite successful in visually monitoring the clubhead path throughout the stroke. Monitoring with real time adjustment. You have to see the line and you have to see the intended clubhead path on both sides of the ball - and you have to see the clubhead travel. It is a no-compromise solution where the end goal has 100% presedence over physics. Forget the hands, forget the arms, forget the pivot. Be the putter. It really works.

[JerryG]

I suffered for a very long time with turning back with my arms too tight to my body and everything went further haywire from there.
After a day with Yoda and reading Forums and The Book quite a bit and a ton of assistance from Kev Carter I had an epiphanous (sp?) moment with hands controlled pivot. I simply put my hands on the shelf where I wanted them. My left shoulder went under. Right shoulder went back. Butt pointed at the target line for the first time in years. Playing golf in the fall just got better and better. Kev recently pointed out my right hip wasn't getting out of the way. It does now.
Now it is -20 at night and barely above zero during the day. I still practice putting those hands on the shelf down in the dungeon.