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Old 12-14-2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Im trying to be polite but you could insert "swinging left" for "hold off", assuming the swinging left is the version that is off plane in follow through. Some are some arent Ive found. The Hands do go In, or Left after all post Low Point when on Homers Plane. Im talking about the clubhead orbit interupting version.


D why are you yelling at me? You of all people. This is your christmas present for crying out loud.
You're always level and professional. I'm not yelling, ever. What am I doing that's making me sound that way. I'll stop immediately.

I'm lost, as usual. What does "swinging left" mean? What's wrong with swinging "On Plane".

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Old 12-14-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
You're always level and professional. I'm not yelling, ever. What am I doing that's making me sound that way. I'll stop immediately.

I'm lost, as usual. What does "swinging left" mean? What's wrong with swinging "On Plane".
No worries mate. There is absolutely nothing wrong with swinging on plane. Guess Ill have to get you some socks or something.

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Old 12-14-2009, 06:23 PM
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Daryl can you elaborate on "Thats gibberish"?
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:15 PM
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Daryl can you elaborate on "Thats gibberish"?
The Lag-meister claims that the Flat Left Wrist cannot be forced. That's "inventing a bad argument" only to disprove it. Who ever said that the Flat Left Wrist needed to be Forced?

Furthermore, he claims that the Flat Left Wrist is a byproduct. Does he tell you that it's a by-product of his Pivot Drive pulling the Left Arm and Clubshaft into a straight line? With a Force so strong as to Flatten the Left Wrist? I hardly would call that a "Vapor Trail". Would you?

What's the best way to avoid generating CF?.....Pulling in a straight line. That's what his Pivot-leg-thrust-ground-force is designed to do. Convenient argument. In other words.."Step on it and you won't be strong enough to bend the left wrist". Oh ya, that's smart. What would you do for a soft pitch shot?

If we learn the correct procedure, we don't need any mumbo-jumbo witch doctor remedies.

The Flat Left Wrist is easy. You have it at start-up, Backstroke, Top, Start Down, Release....now learn not to screw it up during Impact.

See..."Finish Swivel Video" in the Free Video section.
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:41 PM
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golfers throw their hands early because they have not learned how to fire them at the bottom... also, if the pivot accelerates post impact, it pins the left wrist into a flat alignment, then FLW becomes nothing more than a vapor trail effect.

The idea that you should try to force a FLW void of properly releasing the club, or learning proper pivot action is absurd.

[it] would be like looking into the sky, and seeing a white vapor trail behind an airplane and saying.. airplanes fly through the sky because they have white vapor coming out of the rear of them.. if you just blow some white vapor out the back, that's all you have to do to fly a plane in the sky.
This is a direct quote of John's.

I'm not trying to start arguments, I think we are grown up enough to discuss this without resorting to childish taunts of 'gibberish'. If the physics are there, then they are there. If not, then they are not.

As I said I am not trying to provoke a fight and I hope that John doesn't mind me quoting him here, in truth it could cost me a friendship.

I would like to hear from some of the other machine heads on this subject as well, especially our great green one if he is not too busy.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GPStyles View Post
This is a direct quote of John's.

I'm not trying to start arguments, I think we are grown up enough to discuss this without resorting to childish taunts of 'gibberish'. If the physics are there, then they are there. If not, then they are not.

As I said I am not trying to provoke a fight and I hope that John doesn't mind me quoting him here, in truth it could cost me a friendship.

I would like to hear from some of the other machine heads on this subject as well, especially our great green one if he is not too busy.

Gibberish is a grown-up word.

GP, please start this in a new thread in "The Lab". Otherwise it's thread-jacking. The Lab might be a good place to discuss new methods that aren't TGM related. Perhaps this is a question for your close friend John? It is afterall his method and he is a self-proclaimed TGM Expert.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Gibberish is a grown-up word.

GP, please start this in a new thread in "The Lab". Otherwise it's thread-jacking. The Lab might be a good place to discuss new methods that aren't TGM related. Perhaps this is a question for your close friend John? It is afterall his method and he is a self-proclaimed TGM Expert.
Daryl, as one of the most prominent thread jackers on the site, I find your request to move humerous and no more.

I'm sure a debate with you would be interesting but you demonstrate time and time again a lack of patience and whats more a lack of grace when talking to or about people whose opinions differ from your own.

I can do without such rudeness.

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Old 12-15-2009, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
The Lag-meister claims that the Flat Left Wrist cannot be forced. That's "inventing a bad argument" only to disprove it. Who ever said that the Flat Left Wrist needed to be Forced?

Furthermore, he claims that the Flat Left Wrist is a byproduct. Does he tell you that it's a by-product of his Pivot Drive pulling the Left Arm and Clubshaft into a straight line? With a Force so strong as to Flatten the Left Wrist? I hardly would call that a "Vapor Trail". Would you?

What's the best way to avoid generating CF?.....Pulling in a straight line. That's what his Pivot-leg-thrust-ground-force is designed to do. Convenient argument. In other words.."Step on it and you won't be strong enough to bend the left wrist". Oh ya, that's smart. What would you do for a soft pitch shot?

If we learn the correct procedure, we don't need any mumbo-jumbo witch doctor remedies.

The Flat Left Wrist is easy. You have it at start-up, Backstroke, Top, Start Down, Release....now learn not to screw it up during Impact.

See..."Finish Swivel Video" in the Free Video section.
This is just so wrong, so wrong.
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