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Old 10-03-2010, 06:38 PM
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O.B., is 4 barrell hitting, like YODA, pulling with #4 from top then pushing with #1, or is it just a feeling of using #4 along with #1?

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But even if the beginning of the downswing is initiated by a pull it cannot release the club via CF or you could never use the pushing force of the right arm.

Watch a guy like Mickelson and VJ, their right arm is barely able to keep up, they could not be a four barrel player even if they wanted to.

I see why its very tricky to be a four barrel player, you have to blast off with #4 but with so much force that you outrace the right arm and have the club release without #1.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:42 PM
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But even if the beginning of the downswing is initiated by a pull it cannot release the club via CF or you could never use the pushing force of the right arm.

Watch a guy like Mickelson and VJ, their right arm is barely able to keep up, they could not be a four barrel player even if they wanted to.

I see why its very tricky to be a four barrel player, you have to blast off with #4 but with so much force that you outrace the right arm and have the club release without #1.
Hi Greg,

That must be why Yoda says you can be a 4 barrel hitter but not a 4 barrel swinger??? I'm just trying to figure out when a 4 barrel hitter fires #4, or at least what the "feel" is...

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Hi Greg,

That must be why Yoda says you can be a 4 barrel hitter but not a 4 barrel swinger??? I'm just trying to figure out when a 4 barrel hitter fires #4, or at least what the "feel" is...

Kevin
Thats my understanding as well.

You have to move the right shoulder down plane as the launching pad for me that seems like a pull with the left side/shoulder/hip would facilitate this so it seems natural to have all four barrels for a hitter. I guess its a timing thing of the pull-push that might not be the best component pattern.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:11 PM
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But even if the beginning of the downswing is initiated by a pull it cannot release the club via CF or you could never use the pushing force of the right arm.

Watch a guy like Mickelson and VJ, their right arm is barely able to keep up, they could not be a four barrel player even if they wanted to.

I see why its very tricky to be a four barrel player, you have to blast off with #4 but with so much force that you outrace the right arm and have the club release without #1.
Id imagine they let the right hand drop off so it cant push. Their #1 pp has dropped off but the #3pp is still attached.

CF throwout requires you to not push , CF wants to go slow , the right arm wants to speed it up by pushing hard. Id say pushing annuls/ruins CF not the other way around.

In terms of 4 B vs 3B Hitting........its a matter of whether or not the Right Shoulder is moving through the shot. 3B the right shoulder is like a launching pad that is more or less parked (it isnt really but its motion is just that motion as opposed to work) . 4B the Right Shoulder is working which makes timing more difficult. Luke has an analogy to jumping off a parked car vs jumping off a car thats on the move. Why he'd want to do that I dont know. He's crazy.

So I use two throws, Shoulder Throw then Right Arm Throw.

Speaking of Luke , when he rebuilt swing er Hit.........he started with Chip Basic , did nothing but Chip Basic for a month or so. Then he went to Acquired , then Total Motion. He built it from the ground up. And he was a seasoned PGA teaching professional at the time. So we amateur enthusiasts have no excuses. If we want to improve we must start at the beginning...... 12-1 or 2 and 12-5. Dont move past 12-1 until you have mastered it. Dont move past Chip Basic until you have mastered it. You can play some great golf with a 2 B pattern.
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