...or you can use the Impact Fix Hand location as a gateway.
I am very new to TGM. Spent a day each with David Orr and Jeff Evans last year. My game improved significantly since. Forward leaning shaft, lag, trying to move the swing bottom forward, etc.. is the main changes I am making. I haven't hooked a ball since which is saying something as this was my long time nemesis. I hit shots straight, but to the right of my intended target line. I have made huge strides from where I started. Read Bobby's Impact Zone book and saw the dvds recently. However, I fail to grasp the aiming point, or should I say I don't know how to quantify it. I must be doing it to some degree, but not in a conscious way. Meaning, I don't have a spot on the ground I am aiming at as mentioned in Clampett's dvds. I keep reading about folks using pp3 to some effect. I am learning to monitor it as it relates to maintaining lag, but not sure how that is used in conjunction with the aiming point. I am curious about the above comment. What is Impact Fix Hand location? My copy of TGM is on the way from Amazon, so I apologize for asking questions about a theory I have not even read yet. Just eager to learn more.
I am very new to TGM. Spent a day each with David Orr and Jeff Evans last year. My game improved significantly since. Forward leaning shaft, lag, trying to move the swing bottom forward, etc.. is the main changes I am making. I haven't hooked a ball since which is saying something as this was my long time nemesis. I hit shots straight, but to the right of my intended target line. I have made huge strides from where I started. Read Bobby's Impact Zone book and saw the dvds recently. However, I fail to grasp the aiming point, or should I say I don't know how to quantify it. I must be doing it to some degree, but not in a conscious way. Meaning, I don't have a spot on the ground I am aiming at as mentioned in Clampett's dvds. I keep reading about folks using pp3 to some effect. I am learning to monitor it as it relates to maintaining lag, but not sure how that is used in conjunction with the aiming point. I am curious about the above comment. What is Impact Fix Hand location? My copy of TGM is on the way from Amazon, so I apologize for asking questions about a theory I have not even read yet. Just eager to learn more.
-Dan
This is good! YOu have come to the right place . . . I read Clampett's book . . . it's very good . . . BUT . . . he has aiming point mixed up for sure . . . he IS TALKING ABOUT IMPACT HAND LOCATION PROCEEDURE . . . NOT AIMING POINT . . . . Drew is 100% money dolla billz as usual!!! So once you get your book and read up on aiming point you'll see the differences . . . no biggie but Clampett is not using the proper terminology at least as far as Machine spanglish . . . and mixing up procedures/procedural terms . . . that being said book is good but until you separate the two . . . confusion will reign in your reading here. No knock on Bobby's book . . . just didn't get that right.
This is good! YOu have come to the right place . . . I read Clampett's book . . . it's very good . . . BUT . . . he has aiming point mixed up for sure . . . he IS TALKING ABOUT IMPACT HAND LOCATION PROCEEDURE . . . NOT AIMING POINT . . . . Drew is 100% money dolla billz as usual!!! So once you get your book and read up on aiming point you'll see the differences . . . no biggie but Clampett is not using the proper terminology at least as far as Machine spanglish . . . and mixing up procedures/procedural terms . . . that being said book is good but until you separate the two . . . confusion will reign in your reading here. No knock on Bobby's book . . . just didn't get that right.
I am reminded that Bobby Clampett was a student of Ben Doyle and Ben Doyle has "aiming Point" labled on his facts and illusions mat, and, as I recall, he has also said the aiming point is at/near the impact fix hand location. This is a very difficult concept to apply without a better GEOMETRIC explanation. I hope someone can help me also because I have not been able to put any solid geometric understanding into my incubator. Power Package delivery paths and lines make the confusion maybe???
I place my confidence in Mr. Buckets answer back at #7. It is part of power package delivery. Beyond that I become clueless. I have experimented with sliding point +/- on the plane line etc. and all just leave me more confused. My current use is not a point at all but a feel for the location I need to get my hands for release. And i know when its wrong but I also find it VERY hard to fix. It involves more than just hitting that hand location a little more forward or aft. may even tie into hands controled pivot????
I place my confidence in Mr. Buckets answer back at #7. It is part of power package delivery. Beyond that I become clueless. I have experimented with sliding point +/- on the plane line etc. and all just leave me more confused. My current use is not a point at all but a feel for the location I need to get my hands for release. And i know when its wrong but I also find it VERY hard to fix. It involves more than just hitting that hand location a little more forward or aft. may even tie into hands controled pivot????
HB
SURE . . 100% tied to hand controlled pivot . . . as you say above it can be done by "feel" . . . Mr. Kelley actually advised the player to look at the point rather than the ball . . . but this is your "triggering point" or "directing point" to get the club to throw out at the right TIME . . . it IS A TIMING THING . . . each club will line up at a different rate due to the length of the shaft . . . I "experimented" with the aiming point too far forward . . too much shaft lean . . .too much accumulator lag that the accumulators never "dumped" and the club never "threw out" . . . so particularly with the driver I've had to feel that the aiming point is WAAAAAAAY back of the ball . . . that is the danger of some interpretations of TGM/lag/snap release/accumulator lag/sergio&hogan look . . . it may look sexy . . but is it efficient for your game . . . and even though it looks a certain way . . .is it really that "certain way" . . . what you are seeing is happening . . . but does that mean you should MAKE it happen??? Are they trying to make the "look" happen or is the look a result of something else they do?
The more I look at Aiming Point concept the less sense it makes.
Impact fix hand location is the closest that makes any sense, but is not satisfactory. Trying to look at two things at the same time makes no sense at all and looking at something other than the ball makes even less.
OK, let’s define it as the hand position for trigger. The relationships of hand position at trigger and at impact are separated by the pulley and the pulley size is determined by, hand speed, release type and club.
Now I have just defined aiming point in terms that no one else has ever ventured into but all considered in makes as much or more geometrical sense.
I don’t see that this violates anything HK wrote.
DOES IT??
Again, I could be all wrong. So to save the world from another bad concept .....?
at 3:10-3:20 min. where the dowel strikes the ground.
This is it!!!
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