Homer wasn't a big fan of Drag then Drive 4B Hitting. But its still not as conflicted as Pull and PUsh at the same time in Release . Its usable for power shots.
Yes , Fly wheel and launching pad are very different in terms of shoulder motion, movement. Thats classic 3B stuff. When you go 4B Hitting ..... introduce Shoulder Work instead of Motion to Hitting its a different animal. High powered but somewhat conflicted. Arnie takes his Right Shoulder right on through the shot to my eye while he's Thrusting a Right Arm Throw. So does Luke and a bunch of guys on tv.
Luke likens it to having your launching pad on the move for added power. The problem with it is created back in Startdown however.... if you go to End load the Rotated Lag Pressure Point and Drag it all down plane to Release ..... classic Drag Loading .... you're not likely to be aligned to PUSH on the Aft towards the Aiming Point. You need to make compensational moves or alignments , grip change etc. You can get it all done but Homer asked "why bother". Its a question that was more relevant in his era maybe or for the amateur golfer? I dunno.
In short the distinction was drawn by Homer as part of the two [b]uncompensated [/B} basic swing patterns , one pushing one pulling , 12-1 and 12-2. Beautiful things. 3B things. Don't frig with them till you have them mastered.
I'd debate you on this one....I think the right shoulder motion is entirely different regardless of the number of barrels being used.....
I'd debate you on this one....I think the right shoulder motion is entirely different regardless of the number of barrels being used.....
Just for clarity , I was agreeing with you that the shoulder motion is entirely different for Fly Wheel and Launching Pad. So what are we going to debate again? Shoulder motion for 3B Swinging vs 4B Hitting? Is that it?
Just for clarity , I was agreeing with you that the shoulder motion is entirely different for Fly Wheel and Launching Pad. So what are we going to debate again? Shoulder motion for 3B Swinging vs 4B Hitting? Is that it?
You got it! ..... I say.... Hittin' is Hittin' and Swingin' is Swangin'....
You got it! ..... I say.... Hittin' is Hittin' and Swingin' is Swangin'....
OK me too generally speaking. Hitting and swinging are absolutely, positively different applications of thrust in Release. Pushing vs Pulling , right arm throw vs left wrist throw commonly, different directions of thrust even. But it is possible to Hit after a Swingers Startdown although Homer didn't like it much.
Is this the issue? Or are you saying the 3B Hitter who adds Pivot Thrust , a Right Shoulder Throw (making him 4B as I understand it) is adding a different Shoulder Throw than a Swinger would employ?
OK me too generally speaking. Hitting and swinging are absolutely, positively different applications of thrust in Release. Pushing vs Pulling , right arm throw vs left wrist throw commonly, different directions of thrust even. But it is possible to Hit after a Swingers Startdown although Homer didn't like it much.
Is this the issue? Or are you saying the 3B Hitter who adds Pivot Thrust , a Right Shoulder Throw (making him 4B as I understand it) is adding a different Shoulder Throw than a Swinger would employ?
Back....define...."Swinger's Startdown".....then maybe we can talk....them are just words with not content....need some content.
Please support your case how a Hitter can use this? Not saying it can't be done....but I need more than "cuz so and so said so"....
10-19-C DRAG LOADING Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the “Swinger,” an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release. Start the Club down as though it were being drawn from a quiver like an arrow – feathered end first. Maintain this motion until the Release switches ends. This is possible only if, and for as long as, Inertia can hold the Clubhead inside the arc of the Hands or hold to a Line Delivery Path (2-L). Centrifugal Force will set in when the Clubhead crosses to the outside and it will begin to pull into its own incidental orbit per 2-P and 2-K#5. Then further acceleration can be applied only at Pressure Points #1 to support the Pull on the Clubshaft – especially for Short Shot Power.
Develop an “Instant Acceleration” Hip Action (to the desired Hand-speed per 10-15-B) so that the Throw Out Action (6-B-3) can immediately set up the Rhythm and take over the rest of the Downstroke sequence (6-M-1). See 2-K and 6-F-0. With or without Wristcock, always Drag (Pull 10-3-D) a swinging Club Down Plane – even with only Centrifugal (Angular) Momentum (2-K) See 10-23-C.
For Clubhead Throwaway prevention, monitor the pull of Centrifugal Force and Drag of the Lagging Clubhead.