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Old 11-13-2008, 11:59 AM
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I agree that even a gentle pivot action can release PA#4 in a pivot driven swing. Do you believe that the left arm is launched by the deceleration of the upper body's pivot-rotation turn that occurs naturally in a body swinger or do you think that PA#4 starts to release even before the upper torso's rotational movement decelerates?

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The Thrust of the Right Shoulder Turn is complete when it has reached its maximum speed, not the slowing down of the Pivot. After that the Pivot will continue to lead (Pivot Lag has no Release), but directions have been given to the Power Package.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:18 PM
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We'll head up hwy 95 - just pick me up and we'll need to hit drewit first- whos hes thinks he is - telling us what we can call him! We'll show'm - he's going to wish he didn't buy that new mower, I can hear him scream'n now.
First of all, no touches my "New Cadillac" and I have decided to change my name to "Michael OO" so you won't be confused, and move further north to Maine. Riding the new John Deere, I should be there by mid-February .
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First of all, no touches my "New Cadillac" and I have decided to change my name to "Michael OO" so you won't be confused, and move further north to Maine. Riding the new John Deere, I should be there by mid-February .
For the newer forum members- with careful inspection and years of study there is a wealth of information on this forum. Take note of the above- what can you learn from this post? Well, we now know the weather in Attleboro Mass. - has produced frozen ground or the ground is covered with snow!!! Secondly, you will see "DIG's" posting rate go way up (I know - not good news for forum members!) during the next 4 - 6 months. Finally, you know that this poster has a deathwish! Bucket where are you my boy!? Let's Roll!
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For the newer forum members- with careful inspection and years of study there is a wealth of information on this forum. Take note of the above- what can you learn from this post? Well, we now know the weather in Attleboro Mass. - has produced frozen ground or the ground is covered with snow!!! Secondly, you will see "DIG's" posting rate go way up (I know - not good news for forum members!) during the next 4 - 6 months. Finally, you know that this poster has a deathwish! Bucket where are you my boy!? Let's Roll!

You'll never make it past Augusta, GA. Right BJ? BJ? Where are you BJ?
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:30 PM
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DIG? You want a DIG?
Yo guys....for confusion sake, I much rather you refer to Delaware Golf as Dela.

I don't need a name change, thank you very little.
How about Just Drewit

Ok Ok.........Dela??? Ok, refer to Drewit as Sammy D. (DIG).....part of the rat pack!!! Four

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Old 11-13-2008, 10:42 PM
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Jeff,
Before I briefly answer your question, let me say I really don't have a lot of desire to hash through golfing machine information in detail. Therefore, while you may have many, many additional questions- if so- someone else can jump in and answer them. 1) I certainly wouldn't want to ignore future questions without some explanation and 2) right arm swingers are few and far between and to me appear to be compensated procedures- so it's a very small world and although good to know the essential characteristics - not one to spend a lot of time on, in my opinion.

If you are a swinger you pull the club.
A right arm swinger would be primarily pulling with the right arm or musculature that supports the right arm acceleration.
A left arm swinger would be primarily pulling with the left arm or musculature that supports the left arm acceleration.
(Not that there would be a full body feel and many things pulling- but that would be the general distinction between the two. It certainly wouldn't mean that you would only feel the left arm swing ala Leslie King or only feel the right arm swinging.)
Now, If you are pulling with the right arm- then inherit in that action is that the "center" of the swing moves to the right elbow according to Homer Kelley (see 10-3-K 6th edition). Imagine the shaft primarily rotating around or oriented to the right elbow due to the physics involved. If pulling with the left - the "center" of rotaton is the left shoulder. Essentially imagine that the shaft rotates around the left hand and the left shoulder.

So for the golfer on the video- A) it's obvious to me that he is pulling i.e. swinging versus hitting and B) notice the "hang back" or the center of rotation around the right elbow. When I say "hang back" - I really mean that the right arm swing creates certain pivot and body motions that appear different than a "normal" left arm swinger- which kind of highlights the effects of the method through the resulting body motion. Less posting up on the left side etc.

It's not that he should become one so much, but more that he is a right arm swinger and he should "maybe" understand it so that he can be aware of his procedure so that he can be consistent with it and understand the pattern- what works with it and what works against it.


Mike,

That's just one guy swinging with his right arm (how can you base your conclusions on the swinging action of one golfer)...Tomasello doesn't look like that when he swings with his right arm, and I don't either. Mark Evershed doesn't...Erie Els doesn't....Retief Goosen doesn't.....David Love III doesn't.

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We'll head up hwy 95 - just pick me up and we'll need to hit drewit first- whos hes thinks he is - telling us what we can call him! We'll show'm - he's going to wish he didn't buy that new mower, I can hear him scream'n now. Then we need to swing by Delaware- he's saying that I'm confused! That's the last straw! We'll see who is confused after we get through with him! Let's hit the road!! Those are the priority targets- we'll swing back south and perform a mercy killing on Fort- I just can't take it anymore - poor guy has lost his marbles.
MikeyO - I ain't lost nur my marbles. Gona take mur dan u ta make me a gurl.

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That's just one guy swinging with his right arm (how can you base your conclusions on the swinging action of one golfer)...Tomasello doesn't look like that when he swings with his right arm . . .
DG,

Aside from the fact that Mike O never referenced the late Tommy (Tomasello) in his post, I thought we had concluded a couple of years ago that Tommy was not a Right Arm Swinger. Nor was he a Hitter. Instead -- however explained -- he was a (Left Arm) Swinger integrating a sound Pivot with the Magic of the Right Forearm / Elbow Action.

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Old 11-14-2008, 12:54 AM
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You'll never make it past Augusta, GA. Right BJ? BJ? Where are you BJ?
Too late lonely boy! Bucket and I, already took care of BJ! Notice the lack of posts from him! Any other "friends" you wanted to call out for help? - I mean call out a deathwish for? You should have seen BJ's face when I opened the door and then Bucket brought in the goat and the hampster! Priceless!
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MikeyO - I ain't lost nur my marbles. Gona take mur dan u ta make me a gurl.

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Bucket,
I thought I told you to cut all his fingers off and his toes!!! Do you want me to believe that he's typing with his nose!? He's not typing with his ... oh my OK, you're going to need to go back and finish the job- we can't have this it doesn't reflect well on LBG!
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