Is Hogan a swinger or switter?

[pistol]

Have you studied hitting? Hitting or switting isn't about thrusting with the right hand; instead, the right triceps.

Left handed version: Hitting or switting isn't about thrusting with the left hand; instead, the left triceps. (You know you are doing it the wrong way, right!?!)

IN your opinion you think i am doing it the wrong way.How would you know?
Textbook stuff again according to the book and why would you think any other way is the wrong way? did someone tell you this is the only way? divine intervention? some people just simply have more ability and you can call it hands manipulated swinger if you like rather than switter either way is not important.Fact Hogan's right wrist exits in an uncocked position and simply cannot be explained according to the book so prove your 3 barrel swinger theory of Hogan

[Jeff]

Pistol

I have the Augusta DTL footage, but I cannot produce the requisite number of freeze-frame images because the film camera frame rate was too fast to capture the necessary number of capture images.

You wrote-: "This is only my opinion though so the only way i can describe to you is the right hand is accelerated at impact in a manner like it is working under and to the left of a firm left wrist while at the same time the right wrist maintains the bend."

I think that are making a mistake when you state that the right hand is working under and to the left of a firm left wrist. That would imply that the right hand is supinating, when it its really pronating. What gives you the impression that the right hand is working under, and to the left, is the fact that Hogan turns his body/arms/hands leftwards immediately after impact and that changes the hand-viewing angle as viewed by a camera placed directly behind the golfer. It will give the "appearance" that the right hand is working under (supinating), when it is actually working over (pronating).

Secondly, this right hand pronation phenomenon does not occur during impact, and only occurs well after impact as part of the start of the finish swivel action, and I therefore think that it plays no power role during impact (when the right wrist is level and bent).

Jeff.

[pistol]

Pistol

I have the Augusta DTL footage, but I cannot produce the requisite number of freeze-frame images because the film camera frame rate was too fast to capture the necessary number of capture images.

You wrote-: "This is only my opinion though so the only way i can describe to you is the right hand is accelerated at impact in a manner like it is working under and to the left of a firm left wrist while at the same time the right wrist maintains the bend."

I think that are making a mistake when you state that the right hand is working under and to the left of a firm left wrist. That would imply that the right hand is supinating, when it its really pronating. What gives you the impression that the right hand is working under, and to the left, is the fact that Hogan turns his body/arms/hands leftwards immediately after impact and that changes the hand-viewing angle as viewed by a camera placed directly behind the golfer. It will give the "appearance" that the right hand is working under (supinating), when it is actually working over (pronating).

Secondly, this right hand pronation phenomenon does not occur during impact, and only occurs well after impact as part of the start of the finish swivel action, and I therefore think that it plays no power role during impact (when the right wrist is level and bent).

Jeff.

Funny how you can't manage to capture that part of his swing which is clearly evident in a lot of his post accident swings. Why? Simply because it would destroy your theory if you put it up on the forum then you would have come up with another excuse or another lame theory. The right hand is NOT REALLY supinating is it Jeff this is just another one of your medical bs lines and you are just stating the obvious about the right hand pronating well after impact and right at this moment the right wrist is showing the uncocked state

[mrodock]

just simply have more ability and you can call it hands manipulated swinger if you like rather than switter either way is not important.

It isn't merely a semantics issue, those two things are in different countries.

[pistol]

It isn't merely a semantics issue, those two things are in different countries.

Pure swingers don't want 3 right hands either so that would be 3 different planets

[Jeff]

Pistol - you wrote-: "Funny how you can't manage to capture that part of his swing which is clearly evident in a lot of his post accident swings. Why? Simply because it would destroy your theory if you put it up on the forum then you would have come up with another excuse or another lame theory."

I couldn't capture a number of single frames in the immediate post-impact zone because there were none there - because all the DTL film/videos had too slow a frame/second speed (compared to the FO slo-mo movie I had of Hogan).

Your claim that I deliberately didn't produce those frames because it would destroy my theory is an unjustified insult to my neutral/scientific attitude with respect to my "goal of fully understanding the golf swing". I will no longer interact with you, and you are free to believe whatever you like.

Jeff.

[pistol]

Pistol - you wrote-: "Funny how you can't manage to capture that part of his swing which is clearly evident in a lot of his post accident swings. Why? Simply because it would destroy your theory if you put it up on the forum then you would have come up with another excuse or another lame theory."

I couldn't capture a number of single frames in the immediate post-impact zone because there were none there - because all the DTL film/videos had too slow a frame/second speed (compared to the FO slo-mo movie I had of Hogan).

Your claim that I deliberately didn't produce those frames because it would destroy my theory is an unjustified insult to my neutral/scientific attitude with respect to my "goal of fully understanding the golf swing". I will no longer interact with you, and you are free to believe whatever you like.

Jeff.

Here you are running around on all golf forums putting up your pictures and now you expect me to believe you can't put up the evidence that Hogan was not a pure swinger.All you have is one face on footage to prove your theory that hogan was just a 3 barrel swinger which you go on about in Other Forums.How do you expect to fully understand what Hogan did ? How can anyone unless they can swing just like him and i leave you with this simple thruth Hogan said 3 RIGHT HANDS nothing else Not 3 Forearms Not 3 right index fingers Not 3 right sides

[hg]

Why would Mr. Hogan want 3 right hands? Bucket?

[Yoda]

Pure swingers don't want 3 right hands either so that would be 3 different planets

Why would Mr. Hogan want 3 right hands?

The Swinger's Right Arm (as sensed by Right Hand Pressure Points #1 and #3 via Right Elbow action / 6-C-2-C) is passive only in terms of Accelerating Thrust. It is not passive in terms of Extensor Action (right triceps supplying Non-Accelerating Thrust, i.e., Power Package Mass per 6-C-0 #2). Nor is it passive with respect to Clubhead Lag Pressure (2-C-0 #3). In these instances:

"Properly manipulated, Clubhead Inertia can withstand all the Lag Pressure anyone can generate, including Extensor Action." [7-19]

In which case, perhaps Mr. Hogan should have wished for 100 -- or even 1,000 -- Right Hands.

[nuke99]

Some questions..

Also.. when the wrist uncocks on plane ,, and the pp 3 traces down and out.. That would need some participation of either the Pivot CF ing out or the right arm right?

I saw the very slow swing performed by Hogan Home video.. especially at the impact position.. I think It gave me alot of clues ..

1. I saw a little uncocking of left wrist and unbending of the right wrists..
2. I saw he deliberately speed up his right during extention. So is that active or passive?